A PETITION is gaining signatures calling for stricter bail laws and more police on the streets.
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A group against youth crimes in the Redlands, in particular unlawful entry offences on homes and cars, will take the petition to the state government.
Police and senior politicians are calling for caution with Police Minister Mark Ryan saying the government was willing to listen to any ideas.
The change.org online petition started by a Dave No Mas comes after the deaths of young Alexandra Hills couple Matthew Field and Kate Leadbetter on Australia Day.
A Waterford West teenager has been charged with two counts of murder.
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The petition calls for bail laws and sentencing to reflect the serious nature of the offence and be brought in line with community expectations.
"These kids know the system, safe in the knowledge that they'll be protected by the very legislation that purports to protect us from them. The 'punishments' handed down are weak, ineffective and out of step with society. They offer nothing akin to justice," it says.
Police Minister Mark Ryan said the government was willing to listen to any ideas.
"We will always look at our laws to make sure we are doing the best we can," he said.
"If laws need to change ... then of course we will look at that. If someone's got a good idea, give it to us now."
Assistant Police Commissioner Brian Codd said community comments about the alleged offender being on bail for a large number of serious criminal offences were not correct.
Although there was much talk about how bail functioned much of it was inaccurate.
He said the alleged offender had not been released on bail by courts in relation to serious offences.
Commissioner Codd said some of the confusion concerned people who were charged with offences and given "notices to appear".
Court proceedings often then were adjourned, and courts used a mechanism called a "bail undertaking" but this had nothing to do with being held in remand.
"He was not on bail with any conditions or released on bail for serious criminal matters analogous to events on Tuesday," he said.
The petition urges the courts to consider a range of things when sentencing an offender - "deterrence (both general and personal), denunciation, reparation, incapacitation vs prospects for rehabilitation, age and other mitigating factors".
The group is calling for more police on the streets, a visible presence to deter and detect offenders.
Commissioner Codd said more than 85 per cent of police interactions with young people saw them never committing crimes again. Up to 40 per cent of crime was committed by about 10 per cent of offenders.
Mr Ryan said youth offences had dropped by 30 per cent over the past 10 years but there were some young hard nuts who caused substantial trouble.
